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It has 4 problems: Anybody have any experience with it? It is cheap, low power, available, and they give out the datasheets without an NDA.

axe(4) (Belkin F5D) problems

Sign in Sign in Remember me Forgot datashee or password? The other problem with these companies is getting smallish numbers of chips is generally expensive and difficult. For example, I found this schematic containing an 88E in less than a minute of searching: I am not a lawyer, and you should read the terms of the NDA very closely. On 17 Dec, I can only hope these companies stop being so snobbish as they get rapid volume turnoff in the current recession in their favoured consumer markets.


axe(4) (Belkin F5D5055) problems

The fact that other users have been forced to redact pages of schematics tells me that this is a serious problem. We didn’t think it was worth incorporating in development boards, or modules, if our customers couldn’t get the basic information.

The pinout isn’t covered by the NDA, as that information is already published in schematics that you can download. Can you imagine how hard it would be to design anything if every chip eh1011c used had NDAs attached to it?

All claim to use about half the power, are much smaller, and don’t need the 1. The problem is that all of them require an NDA just to see the datasheet. Besides, I don’t want to reward such bad behavior by these chip companies. Create datashet account Forgot password?

[RFC PATCH 01/17] et1011c: Replaced PHY driver by a small dm646x board fixup

I have found candidates from Marvell, Vitesse, and Et0111c. Micrel has nothing gigabit on their website. On Dec 17, 2: Introduction to Microcontrollers Mike Silva. I don’t see how this clashes with open source hardware though. An NDA might be more of a problem for the software; device driver source typically contains information about many of the PHY internal registers. Plus, all the source code is open as well, so who knows what secret registers that might reveal.


We have had the same problem and partially why we have not as yet got a phy module at gigabit available. This seems nuts to me.

[RFC PATCH 01/17] etc: Replaced PHY driver by a small dmx board fixup

I mean, what could possibly be NDA-worthy in the datasheet for a 4 year old part that implements a technology GbE which is nearly a decade old? The schematic merely shows the pinout. John Adair Enterpoint Ltd.